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		<title>By: Biz101</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 09:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daniel,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I read the above-mentioned article and I though it&#039;s good to stimulate the Green industries&lt;br&gt;in Malaysia.&lt;br&gt;Daniel, I &#039;m also very passionate about start-ups and entrepreneurship, so perhaps, we get in touch to network to share our ideas.&lt;br&gt;Hope to hear from you soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,</p>
<p>I read the above-mentioned article and I though it&#39;s good to stimulate the Green industries<br />in Malaysia.<br />Daniel, I &#39;m also very passionate about start-ups and entrepreneurship, so perhaps, we get in touch to network to share our ideas.<br />Hope to hear from you soon.</p>
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		<title>By: cedricgoh</title>
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		<dc:creator>cedricgoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi my name is Cedric Goh. I`m working for this company call Bio-eco. We are dealing with bio-degradable and compostable product. Please feel free to check out our company website. Please do not hesitate to contact me should require any information.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bio-eco.biz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.bio-eco.biz&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:cedric@bio-eco.biz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cedric@bio-eco.biz&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi my name is Cedric Goh. I`m working for this company call Bio-eco. We are dealing with bio-degradable and compostable product. Please feel free to check out our company website. Please do not hesitate to contact me should require any information.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bio-eco.biz" rel="nofollow">http://www.bio-eco.biz</a> <br /><a href="mailto:cedric@bio-eco.biz" rel="nofollow">cedric@bio-eco.biz</a></p>
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		<title>By: Charles F Moreira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles F Moreira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 14:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an organisation committed to promoting environmentalism and sustainable development in Malaysia check out the Centre of Environment, Technology and Development Malaysia (CETDEM, http://www.cetdem.org.my/codenavia/portals/cetdemv1/code/main/main.php)

CETDEM was founded by several people, including pioneer environmental advocate and activist Gurmit Singh who is its chairman of the board and founding executive director.

Gurmit had earlier founded and headed the Environmental Protection Society of Malaysia (EPSM), which spearheaded awareness raising on environmental and ecological matters in Malaysia.

CETDEM is recognised by the UNited Nations Food &amp; Agricultural Organisation -- the FAO.

Also, while Al Gore seems to steal the thunder today, it was people like consumer advocate Ralph Nader who revived the profile of the consumer protection movement and awarness in the United States way back in the 1960s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an organisation committed to promoting environmentalism and sustainable development in Malaysia check out the Centre of Environment, Technology and Development Malaysia (CETDEM, <a href="http://www.cetdem.org.my/codenavia/portals/cetdemv1/code/main/main.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.cetdem.org.my/codenavia/portals/cetdemv1/code/main/main.php</a>)</p>
<p>CETDEM was founded by several people, including pioneer environmental advocate and activist Gurmit Singh who is its chairman of the board and founding executive director.</p>
<p>Gurmit had earlier founded and headed the Environmental Protection Society of Malaysia (EPSM), which spearheaded awareness raising on environmental and ecological matters in Malaysia.</p>
<p>CETDEM is recognised by the UNited Nations Food &amp; Agricultural Organisation &#8212; the FAO.</p>
<p>Also, while Al Gore seems to steal the thunder today, it was people like consumer advocate Ralph Nader who revived the profile of the consumer protection movement and awarness in the United States way back in the 1960s.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles F Moreira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles F Moreira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Yeah but was using power point as a general statement&quot;

The correct generic term is &quot;presentation graphics&quot; and you will never go wrong.

However, you can be excused. The British have this strange habit of calling any brand of vacuum cleaner a &quot;hoover&quot; after the Hoover branded vacuum cleaner and they even say &quot;I hoovered the floor today.&quot;

They also call every brand of ball point men a &quot;biro&quot; after the Biro brand of ball point pen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yeah but was using power point as a general statement&#8221;</p>
<p>The correct generic term is &#8220;presentation graphics&#8221; and you will never go wrong.</p>
<p>However, you can be excused. The British have this strange habit of calling any brand of vacuum cleaner a &#8220;hoover&#8221; after the Hoover branded vacuum cleaner and they even say &#8220;I hoovered the floor today.&#8221;</p>
<p>They also call every brand of ball point men a &#8220;biro&#8221; after the Biro brand of ball point pen.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles F Moreira</title>
		<link>http://www.entrepreneurs.my/green-is-the-word-today/comment-page-1/#comment-2434</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles F Moreira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 15:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going green will be truly effective when the population at large changes their consumption habits and the government will have to play its part.

With the widespread use of cars due to a lack of a decent, reliable, well planned and extensive enough public transport system, people are still going to have to use their cars to get to most places, hence massive traffic jams and wasted fuel.

Well, the corrupt, inefficient and untrustworthy Barisan Nasional government will not do anything to improve the public transport system as long as it also has a conflict of interest in wanting to sell cars -- so kiss goodbye to green.

We also need to stop the use of plastic bags which are given away liberally by shops but the plastic manufactures would scream if the government tried to ban plastic bags.

While small initiatives at being green in the IT industry are laudable, they are not enough to solve green problems in the long term, though they may make the people good about themselves, that&#039;s all.

Green is not a new issue but is something which began with the green movement in Germany around the cusp of the 19th to 20th centuries as a reaction to industrialiation and interest in it was revived with the back-to-nature hippie movement of the 60s.

Going green also means reducing our consumption, which the constant peer-pressure especially vulnerable and insecure young people to buy the latest PC with the most powerful motherboards, biggest amount of RAM and biggest capacity hard disk; or to have the latest mobile phone with this or that latest feature just to impress their friends militates against any attempt to be green -- despite all the hoo ha about monitors with EPA Pollution Preventer, green batteries, etc.

Want to be green. Do away with air conditioning and improve the natural ventilation in your home with turbine ventilators on the roof and hollow blocks over the doors to rooms to allow the free flow of air through the homes and offices. Otherwise, while the rooms have a window on one side, there is not way for free flow of ventilation once you close the door. I experienced that in my own home and had hollow blocks placed above the door of rooms to allow the free flow of ventilation.

Back in the early 1960s our geography book had a story on Ah Chong the Market Gardener who fertilised his vegetable crops using human sewage from the communal pit latrine nearby.

We were told how unhygenic that was and that chemical fertiliser is the way to go.

Well, by the 1970s, environmentally conscious people began to question the value of chemical fertiliser and the damage it inflicted on the land, while the health conscious began questioning the ill effects of chemically fertilised fruits and vegetables on human health.

We Malaysians tend to follow the developed western countries in monkey see, monkey do fashion and now shall we not revert back to the ways of Ah Chong the Market Gardener.

Hey! If all that shit being flushed down the toilet could be instead used as fertiliser just think how it would save us so much money on petroleum-drived chemical fertiliser.

It is in the nature of history to move in cycles, like a point on a rotating screw viewed directly down its axis but unlike the circle, the screw advances a little with each full rotation, so each turn results in the point having come full circle but also having moved forward a bit.

Like the those grand old cinemas -- Federal, Capitol, Odean, Cathay, Rex, Pavilion and others - which closed only to arise again -- pheonix like from the ashes -- as cineplexes in shopping malls, charging RM15 instead of RM1.10 to see a show.

Read on:-

I am yours, most trully

Hi Tek Heretik
==========================

http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1039258/Supermarkets-divided-decision-use-human-sewage-fertiliser-crops.html#

Supermarkets divided on decision to use human sewage as fertiliser for crops By Daily Mail

Demand for the use of human waste as crop fertiliser is rising because the animal-based variety is so closely linked to the price of oil, a water company said today.

Treated human sewage, known as sludge or biosolids, is being spread on nearly 3,000 Midlands fields alone to grow crops such as corn and maize, said Severn Trent Water.

&#039;Severn Trent Water supplies 600,000 wet tonnes of sludge to farmers every year and we have seen a 25% rise in demand for biosolids since the start of 2008,&#039; said press officer Sophie Jordan.

Despite controversy, rising fertiliser costs have led some major supermarkets to sell products that have been treated with human sewage, known as sludge.

&#039;The demand appears to have soared because of the increasing cost of other fertilisers.

&#039;The cost of conventional fertiliser is closely linked to the price of oil, which has shot up over the past year. Farmers who are feeling the pinch might turn to biosolids to reduce costs.&#039;

Supermarket chains are split on the use of the fertiliser for their products - a number say they have banned the controversial practice.

But Severn Trent said the use of treated human waste is safe.

&#039;Recycling sewage sludge is a highly regulated process, with strict quality controls in place,&#039; said the company spokeswoman.

&#039;The strict regulations in place give confidence that using biosolids in agriculture is safe. The &#039;Safe Sludge Matrix&#039; was developed by Water UK and the British Retail Consortium.

&#039;The matrix ensures the highest possible standards of food safety and provides a framework that gives all food industry stakeholders confidence that biosolids can be safely used.&#039;At least three of the UK&#039;s largest supermarket chains have differing policies on the use of sludge in agriculture.A Tesco spokeswoman said: &#039;I can confirm we don&#039;t use any human waste or untreated animals waste on our products.&quot; She was unable to say why.

Sainsbury&#039;s has no such ban on the use of biosolids.

A spokeswoman said: &#039;We have not got a ban or policy on it. We have hundreds of suppliers and I could not say who does and who doesn&#039;t, but what I can say is that all our suppliers would follow the strict guidelines laid down by Defra.&#039;

A Waitrose spokeswoman said: &#039;At Waitrose all our suppliers adhere to the Code of Practice for Agricultural use of Sewage Sludge published by the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions (DETR), but do not permit our suppliers of fruit, vegetables or salad to use sludge in their production.&#039;

The use of biosolids has sparked controversy over its smell and fears of health risks.

But Water UK - which represents all UK water and wastewater service suppliers at national and European level - says biosolids have been used safely in agriculture in the UK and other parts of the world for more than 40 years.

The organisation said it was &#039;safe and sustainable&#039; and recognised as the &#039;best practical environment option&#039; in most circumstances by the European Commission and UK Government.
It said biosolids was the most researched of organic materials used on land and that it was subject to a strict European and UK regulatory framework.
Posted by HiTekHeretik at 2:31 AM 0 comments</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going green will be truly effective when the population at large changes their consumption habits and the government will have to play its part.</p>
<p>With the widespread use of cars due to a lack of a decent, reliable, well planned and extensive enough public transport system, people are still going to have to use their cars to get to most places, hence massive traffic jams and wasted fuel.</p>
<p>Well, the corrupt, inefficient and untrustworthy Barisan Nasional government will not do anything to improve the public transport system as long as it also has a conflict of interest in wanting to sell cars &#8212; so kiss goodbye to green.</p>
<p>We also need to stop the use of plastic bags which are given away liberally by shops but the plastic manufactures would scream if the government tried to ban plastic bags.</p>
<p>While small initiatives at being green in the IT industry are laudable, they are not enough to solve green problems in the long term, though they may make the people good about themselves, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>Green is not a new issue but is something which began with the green movement in Germany around the cusp of the 19th to 20th centuries as a reaction to industrialiation and interest in it was revived with the back-to-nature hippie movement of the 60s.</p>
<p>Going green also means reducing our consumption, which the constant peer-pressure especially vulnerable and insecure young people to buy the latest PC with the most powerful motherboards, biggest amount of RAM and biggest capacity hard disk; or to have the latest mobile phone with this or that latest feature just to impress their friends militates against any attempt to be green &#8212; despite all the hoo ha about monitors with EPA Pollution Preventer, green batteries, etc.</p>
<p>Want to be green. Do away with air conditioning and improve the natural ventilation in your home with turbine ventilators on the roof and hollow blocks over the doors to rooms to allow the free flow of air through the homes and offices. Otherwise, while the rooms have a window on one side, there is not way for free flow of ventilation once you close the door. I experienced that in my own home and had hollow blocks placed above the door of rooms to allow the free flow of ventilation.</p>
<p>Back in the early 1960s our geography book had a story on Ah Chong the Market Gardener who fertilised his vegetable crops using human sewage from the communal pit latrine nearby.</p>
<p>We were told how unhygenic that was and that chemical fertiliser is the way to go.</p>
<p>Well, by the 1970s, environmentally conscious people began to question the value of chemical fertiliser and the damage it inflicted on the land, while the health conscious began questioning the ill effects of chemically fertilised fruits and vegetables on human health.</p>
<p>We Malaysians tend to follow the developed western countries in monkey see, monkey do fashion and now shall we not revert back to the ways of Ah Chong the Market Gardener.</p>
<p>Hey! If all that shit being flushed down the toilet could be instead used as fertiliser just think how it would save us so much money on petroleum-drived chemical fertiliser.</p>
<p>It is in the nature of history to move in cycles, like a point on a rotating screw viewed directly down its axis but unlike the circle, the screw advances a little with each full rotation, so each turn results in the point having come full circle but also having moved forward a bit.</p>
<p>Like the those grand old cinemas &#8212; Federal, Capitol, Odean, Cathay, Rex, Pavilion and others &#8211; which closed only to arise again &#8212; pheonix like from the ashes &#8212; as cineplexes in shopping malls, charging RM15 instead of RM1.10 to see a show.</p>
<p>Read on:-</p>
<p>I am yours, most trully</p>
<p>Hi Tek Heretik<br />
==========================</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1039258/Supermarkets-divided-decision-use-human-sewage-fertiliser-crops.html#" rel="nofollow">http://www.mailonsunday.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1039258/Supermarkets-divided-decision-use-human-sewage-fertiliser-crops.html#</a></p>
<p>Supermarkets divided on decision to use human sewage as fertiliser for crops By Daily Mail</p>
<p>Demand for the use of human waste as crop fertiliser is rising because the animal-based variety is so closely linked to the price of oil, a water company said today.</p>
<p>Treated human sewage, known as sludge or biosolids, is being spread on nearly 3,000 Midlands fields alone to grow crops such as corn and maize, said Severn Trent Water.</p>
<p>&#8216;Severn Trent Water supplies 600,000 wet tonnes of sludge to farmers every year and we have seen a 25% rise in demand for biosolids since the start of 2008,&#8217; said press officer Sophie Jordan.</p>
<p>Despite controversy, rising fertiliser costs have led some major supermarkets to sell products that have been treated with human sewage, known as sludge.</p>
<p>&#8216;The demand appears to have soared because of the increasing cost of other fertilisers.</p>
<p>&#8216;The cost of conventional fertiliser is closely linked to the price of oil, which has shot up over the past year. Farmers who are feeling the pinch might turn to biosolids to reduce costs.&#8217;</p>
<p>Supermarket chains are split on the use of the fertiliser for their products &#8211; a number say they have banned the controversial practice.</p>
<p>But Severn Trent said the use of treated human waste is safe.</p>
<p>&#8216;Recycling sewage sludge is a highly regulated process, with strict quality controls in place,&#8217; said the company spokeswoman.</p>
<p>&#8216;The strict regulations in place give confidence that using biosolids in agriculture is safe. The &#8216;Safe Sludge Matrix&#8217; was developed by Water UK and the British Retail Consortium.</p>
<p>&#8216;The matrix ensures the highest possible standards of food safety and provides a framework that gives all food industry stakeholders confidence that biosolids can be safely used.&#8217;At least three of the UK&#8217;s largest supermarket chains have differing policies on the use of sludge in agriculture.A Tesco spokeswoman said: &#8216;I can confirm we don&#8217;t use any human waste or untreated animals waste on our products.&#8221; She was unable to say why.</p>
<p>Sainsbury&#8217;s has no such ban on the use of biosolids.</p>
<p>A spokeswoman said: &#8216;We have not got a ban or policy on it. We have hundreds of suppliers and I could not say who does and who doesn&#8217;t, but what I can say is that all our suppliers would follow the strict guidelines laid down by Defra.&#8217;</p>
<p>A Waitrose spokeswoman said: &#8216;At Waitrose all our suppliers adhere to the Code of Practice for Agricultural use of Sewage Sludge published by the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions (DETR), but do not permit our suppliers of fruit, vegetables or salad to use sludge in their production.&#8217;</p>
<p>The use of biosolids has sparked controversy over its smell and fears of health risks.</p>
<p>But Water UK &#8211; which represents all UK water and wastewater service suppliers at national and European level &#8211; says biosolids have been used safely in agriculture in the UK and other parts of the world for more than 40 years.</p>
<p>The organisation said it was &#8216;safe and sustainable&#8217; and recognised as the &#8216;best practical environment option&#8217; in most circumstances by the European Commission and UK Government.<br />
It said biosolids was the most researched of organic materials used on land and that it was subject to a strict European and UK regulatory framework.<br />
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		<title>By: Gerard Lim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 08:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool... Keep up the great work Daniel.. See you around. Cheers.   ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool&#8230; Keep up the great work Daniel.. See you around. Cheers.   ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: cerventus</title>
		<link>http://www.entrepreneurs.my/green-is-the-word-today/comment-page-1/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>cerventus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 17:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well it always takes one person then the whole world will change.

Yeah but was using power point as a general statement</description>
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<p>Yeah but was using power point as a general statement</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Lim</title>
		<link>http://www.entrepreneurs.my/green-is-the-word-today/comment-page-1/#comment-67</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW.. Al Gore does not use Power Point. He is a true Apple user and uses Keynote for his presentations. The results as we can see is stunning and its no wonder he gets his message across so much more convincingly...   :-)

There has been many many people before Al Gore that has spoken about global warming. Al Gore was not the 1st. But he made it heard and made everyone talk about it.

Now everyone is acting on it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW.. Al Gore does not use Power Point. He is a true Apple user and uses Keynote for his presentations. The results as we can see is stunning and its no wonder he gets his message across so much more convincingly&#8230;   :-)</p>
<p>There has been many many people before Al Gore that has spoken about global warming. Al Gore was not the 1st. But he made it heard and made everyone talk about it.</p>
<p>Now everyone is acting on it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Lim</title>
		<link>http://www.entrepreneurs.my/green-is-the-word-today/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerard Lim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi...

There are many companies in Malaysia that are involved in Green business. To qualify we must be a Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) project. See http://cdm.unfccc.int for details.

This means these CDM projects are defined as reducing or eliminate carbon emissions and as such can claim for carbon (CER) credits.

I am involved in one such CDM project. We process and convert the waste from the Palm Oil industry into organic fertilizer.

Malaysia IMPORTS over RM 1++ billion worth of chemical base fertilizers every year. Imagine the savings. Think about the health benefits of going organic.

And we will do the environment much good. Plus we get to claim carbon credits, which price is rising on the market today.

There are various other Malaysian companies that are involved in bio gas, bio mass and photovoltaic energy type projects. Most of these projects are implemented in other countries since Malaysia does not give very attractive prices to buy energy from small alternative producers since there is a cartel with the IPPs.

Otherwise, we can get even more going in terms of Green projects here in Malaysia...

Go Green... Green is Unlimited.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi&#8230;</p>
<p>There are many companies in Malaysia that are involved in Green business. To qualify we must be a Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) project. See <a href="http://cdm.unfccc.int" rel="nofollow">http://cdm.unfccc.int</a> for details.</p>
<p>This means these CDM projects are defined as reducing or eliminate carbon emissions and as such can claim for carbon (CER) credits.</p>
<p>I am involved in one such CDM project. We process and convert the waste from the Palm Oil industry into organic fertilizer.</p>
<p>Malaysia IMPORTS over RM 1++ billion worth of chemical base fertilizers every year. Imagine the savings. Think about the health benefits of going organic.</p>
<p>And we will do the environment much good. Plus we get to claim carbon credits, which price is rising on the market today.</p>
<p>There are various other Malaysian companies that are involved in bio gas, bio mass and photovoltaic energy type projects. Most of these projects are implemented in other countries since Malaysia does not give very attractive prices to buy energy from small alternative producers since there is a cartel with the IPPs.</p>
<p>Otherwise, we can get even more going in terms of Green projects here in Malaysia&#8230;</p>
<p>Go Green&#8230; Green is Unlimited.</p>
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		<title>By: cerventus</title>
		<link>http://www.entrepreneurs.my/green-is-the-word-today/comment-page-1/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>cerventus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan: yeah you guys are doing some cool stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan: yeah you guys are doing some cool stuff.</p>
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